[Ietf-not43] extensibility

Richard Shockey richard at shockey.us
Mon Jul 28 11:37:56 EDT 2003


>>
>>The ratio of users to service providers is probably close to about
>>10,000,000:1 give or take a million. Making a decision based on the
>>convenience of ~300 whois providers is wrong, imo.
>
>Your point is valid, but I don't think it is what Richard's (and my) 
>comment centered on.  Just to try and clarify at least where I'm coming from...
>
>There's a difference between the service offered and how it is 
>implemented.  Given two implementations that that offer the required 
>service and the desire to pick one, there has to be other differentiations 
>made.  (This is the state the WG is in.  Both FIRS and IRIS are built to 
>what we decided are the rules of the game. It's a tie according to this, 
>but we can't have a tie.)

Thanks Ed .. the issue again see is is that all things being equal in terms 
of protocol and service requirements it boils down to Layer 8 (economic 
issues) and on that basis the advantages of IRIS at the margin tilt the 
balance.

There is nothing wrong with the expedience in a choice where all other 
factors are roughly equal.


>It's not a matter of what's best for the user vs. what's best for the 
>provider.  Between FIRS and IRIS, well, let's assume they both provide the 
>same service.  In that case I'd say it is valid for the providers to lean 
>to the one that offers it more cheaply.  Because the cheaper one is 
>chosen, in the long run every one wins.
>

Exactly IRIS provides a simplified overall business process architecture 
for,IMHO, the domain name industry based on what we have to do. I cant 
speak to the business process issues among the RIR's.

And lets face it the TLD operators, including my distinguished 
colleagues/competitors from Verisign really don't want to do anything if 
they don't have to since the economics of the business are not very 
pleasant these days even for a major Generic or CC tld.

One way or another implementing these protocols will cost money and my 
analysis concludes that IRIS will be simpler and less expensive.


>What Richard and I said was that for the provider, it seems that IRIS has 
>an edge in adoption given other work being done in registries. Perhaps 
>there are advantages down the FIRS road he and I are missing. And perhaps 
>FIRS is more suited to what the consumers demand.  The latter two points 
>need to be made.

If there are advantages of FIRS for consumers I'd certainly like to see 
that list.

But realistically I take John Klensin's comments to heart that the sooner 
we make a decision the better. There are Layer 9 issues here (political aka 
ICANN) we have to deal with.



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