[Ietf-not43] a perspective on LDAP v IRIS.

[Richard Shockey]

>
> >> The central theme with FIRS is to populate the data substrate, but to
> >>  optimize the application space. In particular, "FIRS" is just a
> >> stovepipe vertical application into the data substrate. The idea is
> >> that once the substrate is populated, other stovepipes will poke into
> >> it, sucking data out and putting new data in.
> >
> > This is the holy grail that we all hope to achieve with a better
> > protocol. Unfortunately, all past efforts failed (X.500, RWhois,
> > whois++) given they tried to point too high trying to achieve the holy
> > grail and did not solve the immediate problem first. I think if set our
> > sites a bit lower and can do the best we can do in having a protocol
> > that solves the registry problems, we may have something that can usurp
> > whois.
>
>I think that's what has me hot: Nobody has said this won't do it, and
>instead are looking at religion and short-term interests.

Well we have stipulated that for all practical purposes the two proposed 
protocols _on paper_ will meet the requirements its just that we don't want 
to use FIRS for very very practical and economic reasons as well as the 
technical reasons David Blaka has demonstrated to my satisfaction.

That is not a short term view it is the reality of the Domain Name 
business. In case you had not heard its a highly competitive, mature 
business that is still trying to recover from the irrational exuberance of 
the past few years. Lots of TLD's are struggling to financially survive.

If it is technically "challenging" or expensive to implement a protocol the 
registry community will not do it or delay its implementation. ( DNSSEC 
..sorry :-) ) Especially among those of us that actually have to A. go 
capital expenditure budget meetings or B. actually have to do the work.

 From our perspective Mark Kosters is entirely correct ..I'm not interested 
in "holy grail" solutions either I want to see the existing problems in 
WHOIS corrected and made more flexible and extensible. IRIS meets those 
tests and integrates very nicely with the other XML query response 
platforms under construction. I'm sold.

I personally apologize to the WG chairs who I know would have preferred a 
more technically oriented discussion but ....





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